freaky eaters: super meat eater vs. super starch

[feilong80]

www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2011/06/13/freaky-eaters/

Note: A lot of the low carb crowd is pretty fanatical in their insinuation that it is ALL hormones and not the amount of food you eat, and the above blog post hints at that (even though I've read Tom Naughton long enough to know that isn't what he really believes).

BUT, I do think there really is something, for many people, in regards to starch vs. protein. It is amazing that he super mega meat eatin' man doesn't seem ridiculously fat while the other two folks, each one slammin' teh starches, do.

[ECM]

There's no question that (processed) carbs, on the whole, are worse for you, but that guy that eats 5-6k cals a day in meat? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a. he's a freak, for eating that much meat and b. he's a freak, in that he can eat that much meat and not gain *any* weight.

[CHI]

Most people grossly underestimate how many calories they eat and grossly overestimate how many they burn. So you end up with a really fat guy who insists that he hardly eats (except for that large pizza with the works for dinner plus a two litre two wash it down) and works out a lot (twenty minutes of walking on the treadmill and then a few sets of curls thrown in for the gunz.)

Not sure what's going on with the 5-6k cal meat guy though.

[ECM]

Yeah, the flipside of that coin is the super-skinny dude that says he "eats everything", everything being a couple of handfuls of grain and a Twinkie every third Sunday but since, on occasion, they eat a whole bag of chips (likely all they eat in an eight hour period) they correlate that w/ being able to "eat anything and not gain any weight." (Self-delusion can be awesome.)

This documentary proves my point about skinny people not being skinny because they're some sort of genetically-gifted superhuman, but because they simply don't want to eat that much:



In a nutshell: they basically reach the above conclusion after forcing a bunch of really thin people to eat to excess for many weeks and, surprise, they *do* gain weight, even though all the eating is nearly intolerable.

There is one exception, but I'm not sure if I believe it, but you'll have to watch it all to find out what that is.

Meanwhile, people like me¹, who are generally lean except for the holidays (sub-10% bodyfat 11 out of 12 months/year), have to really, really watch² their intake because, man, most of us *love* to eat =/

1 That is to say, metabolically normal since, I imagine, some people I know would, generously, describe me as "eccentric"...Rob.
² Or find metabolic 'tricks' to keep the weight in check, e.g. intermittent fasting, cyclic keto diets, etc.

[CHI]

True dat. There's a guy who sits behind me who complains that he can't gain weight and claims he eats all the time. I see him eat MAYBE once per day. His lack of weight is a little mystifying considering that his live-in girlfriend is immense but I digress...

I don't even notice this anymore because it happens all the time but people are always commenting on how much I eat. Even fat(ter) people.

This is why I get Bolo comments from random people.

It's also why I'm not ECM-ripped.

[ECM]

Yeah, the dudes moaning about gaining weight eat like emaciated birds--I should know, until my third year of college, I was one of them. Then I switched to the CHI plan (not knowing at the time that it was the CHI plan¹) and packed on about 20 lbs. in 10 weeks, about 60% of that muscle, the rest fat. (On the downside, I actually managed to change my body type form ecto to endomorphic.)

Of course, I also lifted like a madman (and I still have the broken shoulders to show for it!), otherwise it would have been 100% flab.

¹ Which consists of eating. Huge meals. All the time. I'd eat two Whopper meals for lunch and then, that night, go to Applebees, eat a plate of fries and a double cheesburger, then have some ice cream for desert. (And, of course, all of this w/ copious amounts of Coca-Cola, the non-diet variety.) And, unlike the 'birds', I'd keep eating even if I wasn't hungry, which was unpleasant a lot of the time but also strangely fun. Basically every cent I had went to games and food--mainly the latter--for that stretch.

[Justin]

Jun 14, 2011 13:20:14 GMT -5 CHI said:

His lack of weight is a little mystifying considering that his live-in girlfriend is immense but I digress...

This is awesome.

[CHI]

Jun 14, 2011 14:25:11 GMT -5 ECM said:

¹ Which consists of eating. Huge meals. All the time. I'd eat two Whopper meals for lunch and then, that night, go to Applebees, eat a plate of fries and a double cheesburger, then have some ice cream for desert. (And, of course, all of this w/ copious amounts of Coca-Cola, the non-diet variety.) And, unlike the 'birds', I'd keep eating even if I wasn't hungry, which was unpleasant a lot of the time but also strangely fun. Basically every cent I had went to games and food--mainly the latter--for that stretch.

BTW, this is something I recommend only to those who are young, those who are thin or those who are both. If you're in your 30's and are already fat, this is a recipe for disaster (for you) and huge laughs (for your friends.)

Speaking of eating disasters, ECM, I still wish you'd been able to make it to my bachelor party all those years ago. That's still one of my two greatest feats of over-consumption.

[ECM]

Yeah, when I did that I was a. skinny and b. in my testosterone pumping prime. As it turns out, I was accidentally doing the ABC diet which is a very powerful thing indeed when you're in your teens to mid-20s. (Later I found out that the ABC diet is a great way, if you do repeated cycles of it, to induce massive fat hypertrophy so, yeah, once and out was good.)

Yeah, I still recall the tales of heroic feats of caloric consumption at the buffet tables far and wide 'cross the great land of Las Vegas. Pity I couldn't be there to witness for the ages.